I just started researching this over the weekend, and was surprised to learn that there really are no benefits to having the baby boy circumcised. When I told my husband about it, his first response was "he is getting circumcised". I told him that I read only 60% of the US now does it, and that the medical community has actually been saying for years that there are no benefits to it. The other pregnant girls at work are starting to think I'm nuts because I won't shut up about the vaccines....oh boy, no I found this issue!!
So, for the folks that have had their baby boys circumcised, can you tell me what went into making that decision? I want to make sure I haven't missed anything. As always, thanks for your feedback!
Both my boys are circumcised but I left it up to there dad. It was a high school locker room decision not anything medical. I didn't think it was a big deal to have it done but then again I have heard the way people talk about others they know who didn't have it done and it's shocking. Even adults! You would think people would know better but they don't. I'm glad to hear that 60% of boys aren't having it done, hopefully the stigma will change when they are older. My oldest son actually had a really bad job done. You can tell some skin was taken off but it looks like he didn't have it done. We thought about having it redone but it's a bigger procedure to have it redone. I decided to just let it be and when he is a teenager if he wants it done then we will do it. Hopefully he won't have a problem with other kids. I don't think this helped you at all but that is a little of our experience. I can also say that after my oldest had it done we had ssues for about two days after of him being very cranky and sleep issues, I couldn't put him down. We had none of those issues with the second.
Thanks Jan. Like you, I told my husband he can make the final decision on this one-- just made him promise to read the links to websites I found. Everyone I know that has had a baby boy recently has had it done, so I was surprised by that 60% of people aren't doing it now days.
Apparently, it is not possible to alter the post after the 15 minute "edit" time frame. :-/
Let me know if you'd like links about the medical and sexual aspects regarding the decision. Could you suggest to your husband to let the child make the decision for himself about the skin on his penis?
Pat, yes, please post the links and I can read them and forward them on to my husband. He is 100% in agreement with me regarding postponement/refusal of the vaccinations so I think he'll make a good decision on this. I like your suggestion of letting him make his own decision regarding it once he's older and capable of making a decision.
Care of the Uncircumcised Penis: Guidelines for Parents (pamphlet). American Academy of Pediatrics Includes information on forced retraction, appropriate age for retraction, normal adhesions, function, smegma, and hygiene.:
Information on forced retraction-I especially love this: “Parents of an intact boy often know more about the structure, functions, and development and care of the normal penis than their son’s physician.” Because it is so true! Includes legal remedies should a care provider injure your son.:
My husband had an appointment to meet with Dr. Kanelos today. Dr. Kanelos agreed to work with us regarding our vaccination schedule, but he is pro-circumcision (and I think he pushed my husband there too). Apparently he said there is more research coming forward showing the benefits of circumcision in lessening infections (that is all I was told, he didn't present any research for me to actually review/consider). Overall, he liked the dr. a lot and said he is looking no further for our baby's doctor. He says thanks for the recommendation!
I still plan to review the links Pat posted, to learn more on this subject.
I had never heard that Dr. Kanelos was pro-circumcision. The only documentation I'm aware of is lessened risk of HIV in adults in Kenya who were circumcised. Of course, an adult could decide for himself about the benefits or risks of being circumcised based upon his actual risk of HIV exposure. And the male has to acquire the HIV virus sexually from a partner already infected with HIV. Not likely to happen to an infant son. http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/320/7249/1592?ck=nck
However, "The estimated 1% to 3% incidence of complications after newborn circumcision covers only the immediate postoperative period prior to the infant's discharge from the hospital. The reported risks are hemorrhage in 1%, infection - occasionally leading to sepsis - in 0.5%, meat[iti]s and meatal stenosis, u[r]ethrocutaneous fistula, adhesions between the glans and remaining prepuce, secondary phimosis, and cosmetically unsatisfactory results. The rate of subsequent repeat surgery to correct adhesions of the glans, meatal stenosis, fistula, and phimosis with buried penis is unknown, but our practice at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia includes about two such cases per month. While this is not a large percentage of the total number of circumcisions preformed, it is a significant number of children undergoing surgery for the complication of this operation. "
So, I considered real and immediate risks to our newborn against theoretical risks of some future potential complication of his normal penis. The analogy is that 12.7% of women in America will develop breast cancer at some time in their lives. But, we don't cut off their breasts as a precaution. http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Detection/probability-...
P.S. I will send Dr. Kanelos some current research.
It's ok everyone has typos. No problem. I just want to let you know a little of our experience. I'm not really aware of the pros and cons at least I'm sure I don't know any more then you. Just make sure if you do decide to circumcise do talk to your doctor before birth. My ob/gyn with my first was against it and didn't do it well. He didn't have any problems it was clean and all, but like I said before it does't really look done. My second son there was a differ ob on and he did a fatastic job. Just make sure it is clear to the Dr. doing it what you expect, don't just assume they will do it the way you want. I know it is a very touchy subject for dads so I just want you to know both sides, I am in no way trying to sway you mind either way.
We did go ahead and have our son circumcised. For us we just personally know 4 boys that didn't haven't it done. And of those 4, 1 had to have it done at age 13! and 2 more of them have had chronic problems with infection, swelling, redness. So we did it.
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